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Sorry Michael, we are not using user-created categories on CZ. Please [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Introduction_to_CZ_for_Wikipedians#Not_categories_and_projects_but_workgroups see here]. Regards, [[User:Anton Sweeney|Anton Sweeney]] 20:09, 23 January 2008 (CST) | |||
:Then why is it a Category function? Fix the meta-system or leave it alone. Otherwise, you need to track ever page I have contributed and delete the Catalog page. If you do that, I'll revert every one. --[[User:Michael J. Formica|Michael J. Formica]] 20:16, 23 January 2008 (CST) | |||
::Michael, we don't use user-created categories. The categories we use refer to the workgroups that the article belongs in. However, Catalogs are different entirely. Catalogs are lists of items but we don't create a seperate page for those lists or catalogs--catalogs belong in subpages, not as stand-alone articles. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 20:48, 23 January 2008 (CST) | |||
:::If that's the case, then can someone explain to me why the Catalogs subpage is designed to generate the alphabetized content that it does? It makes no sense for a bot to do something that sophistocated and then it be policy not to point to it. I did not create the page "Integral theory catalogs"...I created a catalog subpage within the article "Integral theory" and the system generated the "Integral theory catalogs" page. | |||
:::Also, if I have been linking all of the articles I have created or have edited via said system-generated catalog pages (see ALL of Psych) to create rings, rather than creating massive See also lists or Related article subpages, why is it an issue now? | |||
:::This is not an issue of me not following protocol, it's an issue of the protocol not being in line with the system tools, and I think that needs to be addressed. What also needs to be addressed is what that system generated page is for and how can it be used as a time saving/work saving device. --[[User:Michael J. Formica|Michael J. Formica]] 02:15, 24 January 2008 (CST) | |||
::::Wait, are you confusing '''categories''' with '''catalogues'''? The catalogues subpage is designed to alphabetize entries within. The only categories we use are workgroup based categories. What seems to be the issue? I am confused by your explanation? Please provide example links so I can understand. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 10:50, 24 January 2008 (CST) | |||
==intro== | |||
Hi everybody. The article says the following: | |||
:''Defenders of his work suggest that his failure to publish in mainstream journals is a consequence of the meta-disciplinary and meta-theoretical nature of Integral Theory, which the highly specialized orientation of academic journals and the peer review process itself are not structured to support.'' | |||
I don't think that that's true. Defenders of his work, and Wilber himself, tend to claim that Wilber honors portions of reality that academia ignores (mystical realities, for example). I can't provide a citation for this at the moment. [[User:Scott Zimmerle|Scott Zimmerle]] 16:49, 14 April 2008 (CDT) | |||
::Interesting position, as this statement paraphrases a statement made by Wilbur himself. --[[User:Michael J. Formica|Michael J. Formica]] 13:26, 17 April 2008 (CDT) |
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Sorry Michael, we are not using user-created categories on CZ. Please see here. Regards, Anton Sweeney 20:09, 23 January 2008 (CST)
- Then why is it a Category function? Fix the meta-system or leave it alone. Otherwise, you need to track ever page I have contributed and delete the Catalog page. If you do that, I'll revert every one. --Michael J. Formica 20:16, 23 January 2008 (CST)
- Michael, we don't use user-created categories. The categories we use refer to the workgroups that the article belongs in. However, Catalogs are different entirely. Catalogs are lists of items but we don't create a seperate page for those lists or catalogs--catalogs belong in subpages, not as stand-alone articles. --Robert W King 20:48, 23 January 2008 (CST)
- If that's the case, then can someone explain to me why the Catalogs subpage is designed to generate the alphabetized content that it does? It makes no sense for a bot to do something that sophistocated and then it be policy not to point to it. I did not create the page "Integral theory catalogs"...I created a catalog subpage within the article "Integral theory" and the system generated the "Integral theory catalogs" page.
- Also, if I have been linking all of the articles I have created or have edited via said system-generated catalog pages (see ALL of Psych) to create rings, rather than creating massive See also lists or Related article subpages, why is it an issue now?
- This is not an issue of me not following protocol, it's an issue of the protocol not being in line with the system tools, and I think that needs to be addressed. What also needs to be addressed is what that system generated page is for and how can it be used as a time saving/work saving device. --Michael J. Formica 02:15, 24 January 2008 (CST)
- Wait, are you confusing categories with catalogues? The catalogues subpage is designed to alphabetize entries within. The only categories we use are workgroup based categories. What seems to be the issue? I am confused by your explanation? Please provide example links so I can understand. --Robert W King 10:50, 24 January 2008 (CST)
- This is not an issue of me not following protocol, it's an issue of the protocol not being in line with the system tools, and I think that needs to be addressed. What also needs to be addressed is what that system generated page is for and how can it be used as a time saving/work saving device. --Michael J. Formica 02:15, 24 January 2008 (CST)
intro
Hi everybody. The article says the following:
- Defenders of his work suggest that his failure to publish in mainstream journals is a consequence of the meta-disciplinary and meta-theoretical nature of Integral Theory, which the highly specialized orientation of academic journals and the peer review process itself are not structured to support.
I don't think that that's true. Defenders of his work, and Wilber himself, tend to claim that Wilber honors portions of reality that academia ignores (mystical realities, for example). I can't provide a citation for this at the moment. Scott Zimmerle 16:49, 14 April 2008 (CDT)
- Interesting position, as this statement paraphrases a statement made by Wilbur himself. --Michael J. Formica 13:26, 17 April 2008 (CDT)
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