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I've been using computers for 25 years now, and the Internet for 13 years, and I know my way around both of them fairly well in a rough and ready way. I'm also a college graduate with a degree in English, and I *still* don't know what "protocol" means in this sense.  Since the word is being used about a dozen times in the first 100 words of this article, I think it would be not only a favor, but also extremely useful, to define it for the long-suffering reader at some '''early''' point in the article. Thanks.  [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 22:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I've been using computers for 25 years now, and the Internet for 13 years, and I know my way around both of them fairly well in a rough and ready way. I'm also a college graduate with a degree in English, and I *still* don't know what "protocol" means in this sense.  Since the word is being used about a dozen times in the first 100 words of this article, I think it would be not only a favor, but also extremely useful, to define it for the long-suffering reader at some '''early''' point in the article. Thanks.  [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 22:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
:[[Protocol (computer)]]. If you prefer, the words of the magical spell. If one incorrectly follows a magical protocol, ''ribbit. ribbit.'' [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 22:07, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

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 Definition:  Highly resilient protocol for messages sent across the internet, first by being broken into smaller packets (each with the endpoint address attached), then moving among many mid-points by unpredictable routes, and finally being reassembled into the original message at the endpoint. IP version 4 (IPv4) is from 1980 but lacked enough addresses for the entire world and was superseded by IP version 6 (IPv6) in 1998. [d] [e]
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Note that Internet Protocol version 4 also exists. Chris Day 03:32, 9 June 2008 (CDT)

As does Internet Protocol version 6. This article deals with commonalities and requirements for the later version. DNS is a technology complementary to both.

There are more detailed articles under the main IPv6 article, and also on complementary techniques such as DHCP.Howard C. Berkowitz 16:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Reorganization from earlier article

I have this pointing to both IPv4 and IPv6, and removed a good deal of text which tried to explain IP in terms of the Open Systems Interconnection Reference Model, rather than the applicable Internet Protocol Suite. Howard C. Berkowitz 20:43, 14 July 2008 (CDT)

Disclaimer

I do cite several papers and presentations of which I was sole or co-author. All are peer-reviewed and are formally public domain, or, in the case of the presentation, was given to a public forum and no copyright was claimed. Please let me know if there are any concerns.

I have written professional books on addressing and routing; others may want to put them into the bibliography if they see fit. The 1998 book is more of historical interest; although it does consider both IPv4 and IPv6, it also discussed the plethora of proprietary protocols they replaced. Howard C. Berkowitz 16:21, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Approval readiness

Given this is a "core article", with IPv4 and IPv6 arguably major sub-cores under it, and that it also is under the core Internet Protocol Suite and other architectural articles such as locality of addresses, I'd like it considered for approval. Editors, please consider its level of detail with respect to those other articles. Howard C. Berkowitz 16:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

What the devil does "protocol" mean in this sense, anyhow?

I've been using computers for 25 years now, and the Internet for 13 years, and I know my way around both of them fairly well in a rough and ready way. I'm also a college graduate with a degree in English, and I *still* don't know what "protocol" means in this sense. Since the word is being used about a dozen times in the first 100 words of this article, I think it would be not only a favor, but also extremely useful, to define it for the long-suffering reader at some early point in the article. Thanks. Hayford Peirce 22:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Protocol (computer). If you prefer, the words of the magical spell. If one incorrectly follows a magical protocol, ribbit. ribbit. Howard C. Berkowitz 22:07, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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